Saturday, October 13, 2007

"Is Sex with Robots Possible?" - Headline from msn.com

(quotes pulled from here)

Thanks MSN, I myself have spent many a lonely night between exhausted sobs that leave me shaking in that oh-so-cliched fetal coil, wondering aloud and sometimes while shaking my fists toward God, "When can I fuck me some robots?"

Artificial intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in the Netherlands (how cold and lonely must it be there?) ...conjectures that robots will become so human-like in appearance, function and personality that many people will fall in love with them, have sex with them and even marry them.

Sex? Okay, understandable I suppose. Love? Hmm, questionable. But marriage? Why marry them when you can just have such uncomplicated, no-strings-attached sex? Does sanctifying the relationship in the eyes of government and God become important with a robot? Would you want to be legally entitled to leave your possessions to your robot widow/widower? Or does marriage indicate that the relationship would go beyond sex? Would this robot do my laundry? Clip my toenails while I lean back luxuriously in my recliner and watch Nascar? Provide moral support while I attempt advancements at my place of employment?

Here's the quote where I realized Mr. Levy might not be well:

It may sound a little weird, but it isn't. Love and sex with robots are inevitable.

It isn't weird? And it's inevitable? Love? With a robot?


In 2006, Henrik Christensen, founder of the European Robotics Research Network, predicted that people will be having sex with robots within five years, and Levy thinks that's quite likely.

Hmm, I was feeling pretty lonely lately, wondering how long it's gonna be til' these burly ol' arms of mine could spoon with someone again, and uuhhh, looks like it's gonna be five years.


Serious and not so serious questions are raised by this whole robot sex business. I'll make no effort to separate the two. And honestly, seeing as how I can't wrap my mind around this, this entire blog entry is pretty shoddily organized. It's just that this idea seems to be ripe with so many questions, and it makes one reconsider ideas of humanity and love.

What about divorce? Will we have a bevy of used, unwanted robot partners rebuked after "the thrill is gone," frequenting singles bars, making drunken, dancing-on-top-of-the-bar robot asses of themselves and going home with the last person there? Will people even want to be with divorced robots, or will they simply need to be disposed of?


Will we drunk-dial our robot exes?


I did find this next part funny and more revealing of Levy himself than the question of robot sex/love/marriage:

At first, sex with robots might be considered geeky, "but once you have a story like 'I had sex with a robot, and it was great!' appear someplace like Cosmo magazine, I'd expect many people to jump on the bandwagon," Levy said.


Wow, sadly, I can see magazines of the future with headlines like that. Although I don't think geeky is necessarily the correct word choice there. I'd lean more toward, oh I don't know, indicative of a serious personal and social disorder.


Here's something President Eisenhower never coulda thunk:
We must beware the robot-industrial-congressional complex.

That's right. Congress legislating favors for corporate robot interests because they themselves will be entangled in this whole robot romance tomfoolery. If Republican sex scandals involved robots, would they still be as scandalous? Hell, if anything seems "inevitable," it's that in the future a Republican that vehemently castigates robot sex and marriage will be found in a bathroom stall with this thing:




Jesus, maybe this is what O'Reilly and anti-gay marriage folks mean when they say legalizing such marriages is a slippery slope to people marrying animals, marrying toaster ovens, boxes of delicious maple brown sugar mini-wheats, k-y warming gel, etc., all leading to marrying a damn robot.


In regard to the title of the link on msn.com - is sex with robots possible? - isn't the answer obviously yes? I mean, it seems like desperate and/or disturbed people could find a way to fuck just about anything - man, woman, child, animal, mineral or vegetable.


Some robots:

Jesus Christ, this robot saves wounded soldiers from battle! That's hot! What Republican wouldn't reconsider some legislation that would make it legal to honor this troop-honoring piece of hunkmetal?



Hmmm....

Obviously, one couldn't go much beyond second base with this robot. Or is it third? I never really understood the baseball analogy.


This robot's nice and all, but I think we're better off just staying friends.



And of course, what lady or alternative-leaning gentleman could deny a robotic James Spader head? (I'll avoid an obvious joke here)
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Other thoughts:

Would you have to do your own maintenance?

That seems difficult. I just want to have sex with the robot, not perform routine maintenance. Then again, this would just provide a great capitalistic opportunity for robot repairmen! Neat! But also, and perhaps I'm veering into cringe-land, but would the robot take the time to, ahem cough cough, clean herself up afterward? That would seem like a sanitary necessity.


Would your robot be true to you? Hell, I'm so lacking in an ability to trust that I'd think my robot was fucking the fridge while I was at work. And in more complex issues, if fidelity is a matter of programming, could a pervert hacker reprogram your robot to cheat on you? If so, would you blame the robot? Would you know?


But back to the issue of love -
Levy argues that psychologists have identified roughly a dozen basic reasons why people fall in love, "and almost all of them could apply to human-robot relationships. For instance, one thing that prompts people to fall in love are similarities in personality and knowledge, and all of this is programmable. Another reason people are more likely to fall in love is if they know the other person likes them, and that's programmable too."

The personality and knowledge thing, I hesitatingly admit, may have some merit. But that last thing - knowing they like you. Wouldn't knowing that they like you because you programmed them that way sort of kill that inexplicable butterfly nonsense and perhaps necessary human drama of not knowing? Programming it to like you just seems, I don't know, to eliminate something important that I can't quite explain. Maybe calling it cold is the simplest way of putting it.

Shit, but maybe the "similarities in personality and knowledge" being programmable is not a reasonable argument either. From what I understand, most people don't really know what they want, and most relationships and love are surprises. So I don't think one could begin to accurately program what they wanted because they don't know what they actually click (for lack of a better term) with anyway. When it comes to personality, I don't know if we do in fact seek similarities. Maybe knowledge and interests, but most relationships consist of two people with quite different personalities. I know I couldn't get along with somebody just like me. It's more of a strange symbiotic and yin and yang thing most of the time, not similarities that create a relationship scenario.

But all this talk of the future is really ridiculous, because tons of realistic love dolls already exist. Is this what you want to wake up to for the rest of your life?


From siliconeworksdolls.com:

Throat on this doll is 8” deep.

Jesus, would someone that gifted in the pants really need to resort to that?

We carry several types of realistic silicone sex dolls as well as doll torsos, breasts only, feet and heads. (silicone doll heads do not come with wig) from different manufacturers.

I can't help but think this is the extreme result of objectifying women (hmm, people in general I suppose, women just more commonly and farther back in our history) and breaking them down into their single body parts, be it from pornography, or even in mainstream advertising and entertainment.

I'll spare you the photo on this next caption:
Click photo to BUY or learn more about the torsos Natalie Petite Personal Companion love doll- Torso with attached head only, no bulky arms or legs. 36 C breasts Realistic and jiggly!

Ha! No bulky arms or legs.

Or bulky little brain with silly little words and thoughts.




But more love...

I'm familiar with the idea that we may not actually fall in love with a person, but rather the idea or image we have inside our brains of that person. We fall in love with a particular feeling or set of feelings that a person gives us, almost like an addiction to a certain behavioral pattern. Thus, when one person attempts or begins to change, or acts in ways outside of our fixed notion (humans are, after all, inclined at most turns to form concrete patterns out of the abstractions of life, usually just to get by) of said person, there are relationship problems.

So, perhaps a robot, forever unchanging and actually programmed to never change, is what some people really need? Still, there is the issue of not knowing what we want or need, and that thus any attempts to create an unchanging version of a romantic, idealized guess would ultimately disappoint us.


What are your thoughts on this?

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

this is absurd. at first i kind of thought the whole robot-sex thing was a joke but goddamn...people are insane. you brought up an interesting point about years of objectifying women/men which may have led to this, i know i'm tired of listening to guys with their opinions and their feelings...give me some robot lovin'...for real. my only question - whhhyyy???

Jeff Milam said...

I am falling in love with this blog. Is that just a foreshadowing of my inevitable streak of robotic one night stands and cybernetic breakdowns? Don't do this to me Bible Belt Escapists, DON'T DO THIS TO ME!!!!!!

Jeff Milam said...

wait... does this mean that in ten years i can do it with your blog... imagine how close we will be when we make love instead of leave comments.

Josh said...

Ten years Jeff? TEN YEARS? Oh man, I'm sure it won't take that long. Have more faith in capitalism's ability to scrape the bottom of the barrel to give us things our morality and decency can't even catch up to. I'm sure there will be computer peripherals in fewer years than that which will allow one user to do something, via a cyber-penis for example, that another user will feel via cyber-gina, or whathaveyou. God bless the Internet and your interest in doing the mommy and daddy dance with our blog.

Josh said...

And Penny, yeah, feelings and opinions are kind passe now, kinda pre-millenium if you ask me. And as twenty-something business-minded individuals looking to make some money in this crazy American ratrace, who has time for sharing thoughts and emotions? We just need to get off and be on about our business.

Rob said...

I find this rather amusing and somewhat ironic that I read this after seeing an ad for Robot Chicken where they have a skit dealing with sex with robots.

Well, I'll be honest. I am not sure how I personally feel about robot sex and love, but I can definitely see some positives:

1) You could program/create exactly what you wanted.

2) You could possibly program several "modes" - types of desired girls or guys - into one robot.

3) You COULD make them do whatever you wanted. Whether it be pleasuring you in some sick way or clipping your toenails while you sit back and watch the knife show infomercial at 3:00 AM.

4) If you got sick of your robot love you could just reprogram it.

5) Insert many other reasons as needed.

But I don't know think robot love will be possible. I mean sure AI has and will continue to progress. But I wonder if "love" will ever be possible for a robot...sure feelings of sort, but "love?"

But this brings up the whole discussion of "what exactly is love? And does it really exist?"

A question for Mr. Levy:

Does a relationship between a man or woman and a robot (of whatever sex chosen) be a some form of interspecies relationship? Would a man and a guy robot still be considered gay? Would people still try to outlaw this? What about those who are into bestiality (yeah it's spelled right, I looked it up), where there be animal robots for those people to love?

I think Mr. Levy has much more research to do before he starts making claims for this to go down within five years.

Unknown said...

This is from your source article. Let this bounce around in your brain for a while...

"If you have pedophiles and you let them use a robotic child, will that reduce the incidence of them abusing real children, or will it increase it?" Arkin asked. "I don't think anyone has the answers for that yet — that's where future research needs to be done."

A few things to consider:

1. Are we really considering giving pedophiles practice victims?

2. Is there really such thing as a "robot child" or is it just a smaller version of a normal robot?

3. And this one might be going too far but... would the child-bot want to be raped? And if so, would the pedophiles enjoy this? Or is seeing healthy, happy children dissolve into self-loathing shells of beings what really gets them off?

"I don't think anyone has the answers for that yet — that's where future research needs to be done."

Southwestern Belle said...

I just think about the sister from the movie Toys. Will these robots also befriend LL Cool J and eat pill sandwiches?

I don't know why I was surprised that real dolls have a "shaved" downstairs.